From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Eliminating "changed in Emacs outside of Customize" Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:16:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200502040316.j143GKf04943@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200502040131.j141VC904260@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107487089 19144 80.91.229.2 (4 Feb 2005 03:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 03:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, rms@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 04 04:18:08 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cwtys-0001Si-Rj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2005 04:18:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwuCK-0000a1-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:31:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwuC7-0000We-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:31:43 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1CwuC5-0000UF-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:31:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CwuC4-0000Tw-R1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:31:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CwtyU-0002Ve-5S; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 22:17:38 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j143Hb9N026535; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:17:37 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j143GKf04943; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 21:16:20 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu In-reply-to: <200502040131.j141VC904260@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Thu, 3 Feb 2005 19:31:12 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32855 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32855 >>From my previous message: >>From my previous message: After Emacs 21.4 is out we could try to make sure that those lines basically never will appear, by trying to eliminate the (unfortunately numerous) situations that give rise to it. Actually, unlike what I said in a previous message, this would not eliminate the warnings due to user customizations in .emacs. But I emphasized the wrong thing in the quote above. The important thing is not to eliminate "Set outside of Custom" statements _as a goal in its own right_. The important thing (for after emacs 21.4) is to make sure that people can safely customize options like `find-file-hook', `completion-ignored-extensions' and many others, through Custom, which they can currently not do. Sincerely, Luc.