From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: backup method Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:45:18 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <200501270045.j0R0jIq06197@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <20050127000210.GA6167@boetes.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106786916 13295 80.91.229.6 (27 Jan 2005 00:48:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 27 01:48:30 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ctxpl-0000s5-00 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:48:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cty26-00041N-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:01:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cty0i-0003gR-1U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:59:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Cty0X-0003Y5-S7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:59:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cty0X-0003Xu-N3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:59:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ctxnf-0003Fm-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:46:19 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j0R0kI9N029501; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:46:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id j0R0jIq06197; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:45:18 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: han@mijncomputer.nl In-reply-to: <20050127000210.GA6167@boetes.org> (message from Han Boetes on Thu, 27 Jan 2005 01:01:48 +0059) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32567 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32567 Han Boetes wrote: So I would like to suggest to make backup by copying the default. I agree. Backup by renaming is a very confusing default. I had to change it instantly after I first started using Emacs. I had a process appending to a file with auto-revert enabled. I edited the file and saved my changes. The process started appending to the backup file. Very confusing. (It actually was so confusing that I still clearly remember it.) At that time I was not knowledgeable about Emacs at all (I had never used it before) and without the help of my sysadmin, I would not have been able to figure out at all what to do. (Which, of course, was to set `backup-by-copying' to true.) Then of course there is the silent breaking of hard links. Sincerely, Luc.