From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug 130397 (Was: Emacs - Ispell problem with i[no]german dictionary) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:37:50 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <200501120737.QAA08464@etlken.m17n.org> References: <20040517120658.GA6919@agmartin.aq.upm.es> <20041217121515.GA2270@agmartin.aq.upm.es> <200412221237.VAA07262@etlken.m17n.org> <20041222171306.GA4462@agmartin.aq.upm.es> <20050110130641.GB13663@tofu.mamane.lu> <20050110171611.GA10357@agmartin.aq.upm.es> <200501110516.OAA03606@etlken.m17n.org> <20050111195623.GA4031@agmartin.aq.upm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1105517380 30382 80.91.229.6 (12 Jan 2005 08:09:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 08:09:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lionel@mamane.lu, emacs-devel@gnu.org, 130397@bugs.debian.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 09:09:33 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CodZN-0005xn-00 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:09:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Codkx-0003Gy-QD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:21:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Codgz-0002is-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:17:26 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Codgq-0002eT-Rh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:17:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Codgo-0002VP-KD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:17:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1Cod5L-0002al-6V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 02:38:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j0C7bpBG020098; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:37:52 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j0C7bot24679; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:37:51 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id QAA08464; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:37:50 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Agustin Martin In-reply-to: <20050111195623.GA4031@agmartin.aq.upm.es> (message from Agustin Martin on Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:56:23 +0100) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3.50 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:32156 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:32156 In article <20050111195623.GA4031@agmartin.aq.upm.es>, Agustin Martin writes: > I meant with oe-1char oe as a single char (U+0153), available > in iso-8859-15 (octal \275 here), but not in iso-8859-1 (you > have one half instead), and with oe-2char the two 7bit chars sequence > 'oe', available anywhere, and that is the trick usually used in > iso-8859-1 to represent that char. Ah, I see. > I like the idea, and at a first glance it should not be difficult to > implement, even for a person like me, whose lisp skills are limited. It will > help for old emacs21, for emacs20 my workaround will do nothing since it has > no iso-8859-15, and for Debian xemacs21 my workaround is also doing nothing > since xemacs21 seems to return some extra (IMHO wrong) stuff in > buffer-file-coding-system. > I will first retest everything with a 'good' (built to my taste) french > dict, pen and paper, to know in detail the differences in the results for > both systems. Last day I could notice that the misalignment error > disappeared and that things worked better, but not much more. Need to test > also with aspell and other languages. > Even in the case both systems give mostly similar results I will try > integrating them, since I guess your patch will be more appropriate for > future emacs21 development, and looks somewhat more general. How are ispell.el of Emacs and that of dictionaries-common maintained? Are they synched somehow? Should I install my patch for CVS Emacs. Or, is it better to wait for you or some other maintainer work on it? --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org