From: Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu>
Cc: Reiner.Steib@gmx.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:17:12 -0600 (CST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200501070417.j074HCi08213@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Cmdk5-0006is-A1@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:56:21 -0500)
Richard Stallman wrote:
If specific :set and :get functions fail to handle custom-local-buffer,
that is a bug.
They are _currently_ not really bugs (at least not user visible bugs),
since there currently are no situations where custom-local-buffer can
be meaningfully used. From the moment we start using
custom-local-buffer they would become (user visible) bugs.
We can fix these bugs at any time.
Yes, except that time spent doing that means less time spent working
toward a release. We only have a motivation to spend time on that
_before_ rather than _after_ the release if we plan on using
`custom-local-buffer' meaningfully before the next release.
Would you like to find some cases that fail, and fix them?
I could look at those defcustoms that I am very familiar with, but
that is a very small fraction of all defcustoms with :set functions
that are out there. (Fortunately, :get functions appear to be very
rare.) For many :set functions it may not be immediately obvious what
the best way to make them work buffer-locally is, and there are tons
of defcustoms with :set functions.
The only reason to worry about making :set and :get functions work
buffer locally now would be to allow `set-variable' to call the :set
functions buffer locally. But if we try to do that _now_, the next
release will be full of newly introduced bugs, because we will not
be able to come even remotely close to adapt all :set functions.
The next release seems already remote enough that I do not believe
that we should delay it further by trying to change the behavior of
`set-variable' right now.
All of this is not a question about what should be done, but whether
it should be done for 21.4 or for 22.
Sincerely,
Luc.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-01-07 4:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-02 6:41 Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Drew Adams
2005-01-02 13:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 19:48 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-02 20:44 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 16:55 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 17:13 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:20 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-03 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:03 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:10 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:26 ` Miles Bader
2005-01-04 10:16 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 15:55 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 18:27 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-04 19:50 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 8:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-05 17:50 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-02 20:25 ` Reiner Steib
2005-01-02 20:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-01-02 23:52 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:35 ` Stefan
2005-01-03 1:57 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-03 20:45 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-04 9:46 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 17:31 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 20:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-05 21:43 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-05 21:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 9:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-06 15:26 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-06 20:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-06 19:05 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-06 19:55 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 20:30 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-24 22:29 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-09 3:23 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 9:24 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 14:13 ` Stefan
2005-01-04 19:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-05 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 20:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 8:48 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-03 17:47 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-04 1:58 ` Robert J. Chassell
2005-01-03 7:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-01-04 0:54 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-05 3:31 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-05 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-06 3:46 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-06 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-07 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-06 19:56 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-07 4:17 ` Luc Teirlinck [this message]
2005-01-07 23:04 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-04 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-03 17:28 ` drkm
2005-01-03 18:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-03 18:56 ` drkm
2005-01-04 9:49 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 9:32 ` Per Abrahamsen
2005-01-04 12:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2005-01-04 18:12 ` Drew Adams
2005-01-03 0:58 ` Richard Stallman
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