From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Face color changes Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: <20041226234947.GA13001@fencepost> References: <87fz1srfmt.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104105483 13844 80.91.229.6 (26 Dec 2004 23:58:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 27 00:57:56 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CiiGp-0001Jt-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2004 00:57:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CiiRb-0005nd-8e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:09:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CiiRE-0005m8-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CiiRD-0005kp-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:08:39 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CiiRC-0005kB-Er for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 19:08:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CiiEL-00005D-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:55:21 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cii8x-000564-KB; Sun, 26 Dec 2004 18:49:47 -0500 Original-To: Juri Linkov Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87fz1srfmt.fsf@jurta.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31424 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31424 On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 09:57:38PM +0200, Juri Linkov wrote: > I noticed that some face colors are bad choices. The worst example > is "RosyBrown" used for font-lock-string-face on light backgrounds. > It has high intensity which corresponds to light colors. No wonder > that this color is hardly visible on light backgrounds. I'd go farther to say that _many_ of the light-background default faces are quite pathetically bad; however it's always in my experience been very hard to form any consensus for change because of the fear that "users will mind" (not to mention inevitable bickering over what new color to use). [I use a dark background, so I reserve my energy for keeping those faces sane] > If this is correct, other face colors could be improved as well > to match their background mode (i.e. to use light colors on dark > backgrounds, and dark colors on light backgrounds). A nice idea, though any such formulaic judgment of color relationships should be closely scrutinized. -Miles -- In New York, most people don't have cars, so if you want to kill a person, you have to take the subway to their house. And sometimes on the way, the train is delayed and you get impatient, so you have to kill someone on the subway. [George Carlin]