From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Whaite Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: $HOME default on w32 Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:49:14 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200410272049.i9RKnEto006213@brains.moreideas.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098910189 21934 80.91.229.6 (27 Oct 2004 20:49:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 27 22:49:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CMujd-000873-00 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:49:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMurO-0003c2-Dl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMurI-0003bx-JH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CMurI-0003bl-5A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CMurI-0003bi-1J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:57:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.5.194.99] (helo=berlinr.sprint.ca) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CMujN-0006eF-Bg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:49:17 -0400 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca ([149.99.163.229]) by berlinr.sprint.ca (InterMail vM.5.01.02.00 201-253-122-103-101-20001108) with ESMTP id <20041027204910.ZKP14765.berlinr.sprint.ca@brains.moreideas.ca> for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9RKnEo0006218 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (peta@localhost) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i9RKnEto006213 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:49:14 -0400 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Message from Stefan Monnier of "Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:53:37 EDT." X-Mailer: MH-E 7.82+cvs; nmh 1.0.4; GNU Emacs 21.3.50.33 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:29078 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:29078 > > Personally, I think that $HOME (~) should be CSIDL_PERSONAL, and that's good > > enough for now. > > From a Unix point of view, $HOME should be (as far as possible) "the highest > user-specific directory", so that everything that belongs to the user is > below ~. > > I think that's why I feel like HOME == USERPROFILE makes more sense. > > And since non-user-generated files (like ~/.emacs if it comes from Custom, > or ~/.emacs.d/auto-save-list) are put below $HOME, I feel like "My > Documents" would be wrong. I have to agree with Stephan. David Korn's UWIN also puts HOME under USERPROFILE, and I find that convenient as its very useful to have your ksh ~/.profile follow you around when you have a roaming windows profile. That doesn't happen with emacs' SYSTEMDRIVE home (and if I recall correctly that's where the earlier versions of UWIN had it too). Furthermore it doesn't seem right to put configuration files in "My Documents" -- its a place for your documents. Accessing them is natural with a USERPROFILE home. Its "~/My Documents". I definitely dont like the idea of "windows correctness" as that would place ~/.emacs under something like "USERPROFILE/Application Data/GNU/Emacs". Then if you wanted to get to your documents you'd have to use "~/../../../My Documents/" -- Peter Whaite (http://whaite.ca)