From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Setting file-name/process coding system from LANG Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:02:09 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200410200602.PAA29211@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200410181304.WAA24091@etlken.m17n.org> <200410191313.WAA27071@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098252209 29258 80.91.229.6 (20 Oct 2004 06:03:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 06:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 20 08:03:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CK9Yw-0000fN-00 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:03:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CK9gJ-0000Ie-IH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:10:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CK9gC-0000Hu-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:10:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CK9gB-0000H4-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:10:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CK9gB-0000Gy-Ck for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:10:35 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CK9Y5-00010D-7f; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 02:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id i9K62A9d002257; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:02:10 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9K629F16531; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:02:09 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id PAA29211; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:02:09 +0900 (JST) Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:51:40 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28644 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28644 In article , Stefan Monnier writes: >> Then a user can't recover that original setting when he once >> switch to, e.g., Latin-1. Just switching back to Japanese >> can't setup coding systems for utf8. > M-x set-locale-environment RET > In my experience set-locale-environment has always been closer to what > I wanted to do than set-language-environment. > It also has the advantage of having a meaning outside of Emacs and of > conveniently separate the issue of language from the issue of coding-system. Yes, asking users to use set-locale-environment instead of set-language-environment is one way. But, I've thought that set-locale-environment is not a command we usually ask a user to use, but a function that runs at startup time. Do you mean to recommend users to use set-locale-environment always? --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org