From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Setting file-name/process coding system from LANG Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:13:53 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200410191313.WAA27071@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200410181304.WAA24091@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1098191674 3902 80.91.229.6 (19 Oct 2004 13:14:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:14:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: miles@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 19 15:14:23 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CJtok-0002RD-00 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:14:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJtw6-0001Vj-5N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:21:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJtvw-0001Uw-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CJtvw-0001UN-Fw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CJtvw-0001UF-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:21:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CJtoK-0001Hb-QE; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:13:57 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id i9JDDs9d017641; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:13:54 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9JDDsF01495; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:13:54 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id WAA27071; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 22:13:53 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 19 Oct 2004 02:13:21 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28601 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28601 In article , Richard Stallman writes: > A while ago, I proposed an idea about make language > environment more hierarchical and make it possible to > generate one on demand from locale, but you refused such a > change. > I disliked this because it involves a lot of additional complexity. > I think we don't need all that complexity. > When Emacs sees LANG=ja_JP.utf8, surely it can select the Japanese > language environment, then do something else to cause use of UTF8. > Surely it can do this without having an explicit language environment > for the combination of the two. Then a user can't recover that original setting when he once switch to, e.g., Latin-1. Just switching back to Japanese can't setup coding systems for utf8. Another problem is the case of LANG=zh_CN.utf8. Currently we don't have Chinese lang. env. We only have Chinese-GB, Chinese-EUC-TW, Chinese-BIG5, Chinese-CNS. Which one to use? --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org