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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: jerome.marant@free.fr, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rlb@defaultvalue.org,
	storm@cua.dk
Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:32:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040930143241.GA2296@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01c4a6f7$Blat.v2.2.2$8c5c2b00@zahav.net.il>

On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 04:11:38PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> Anyway, what's wrong with the current scheme that we need to abandon
> it

Because the current scheme is confusing to users.  I've certainly observed
doubt as to whether a new Emacs release "means anything" (i.e. lots of new
features, or just a few random fixes) or not.

> and how does the suggested 3-component scheme improves that to a
> degree that justifies additional work (to fix all those places that
> will need fixing)?

What work?  I saw a similar claim earlier in this thread, grepped around a
bit, and saw no places that seemed to care what the version looks like.  No
doubt there are a few places like the maintenance scripts in admin, but
frankly if it's _only_ that, it's a silly objection -- there's certainly
somebody willing to fix those up.  Lisp packages are really the place that
matters, and as I mentioned, I've seen absolutely no evidence that such a
change would have any adverse impact at all.

I think the suggestion that a third-level component >= 50 mean "development"
is a very reasonable idea to retain that distinction, and in general
following Rob's would seem to result in something that's a lot less clunky
than the current system.

-Miles
-- 
I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme
or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over.  --Ian Wolff

  reply	other threads:[~2004-09-30 14:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-27  7:37 [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Richard Stallman
2004-09-27  9:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-27 11:48   ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-27 13:24       ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 14:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-28  9:01           ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 22:55     ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-28 20:57       ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:05   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-27 13:21     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-27 13:47       ` Miles Bader
2004-09-28 12:37         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-29 17:46         ` Rob Browning
2004-09-29 18:04           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-29 19:29             ` Rob Browning
2004-09-29 20:09               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-29 20:22               ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30  0:53                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-09-30  1:25                   ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 15:40                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30 17:02                       ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 19:32                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30  1:56                   ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30  7:42                     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30  9:36                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 14:11                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:32                       ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-09-30 15:02                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 15:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:36                       ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 15:00                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 16:33                         ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 17:37                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30 19:39                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-03  1:18                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30 20:26                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 20:36                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 20:46                               ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 21:40                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 21:33                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 21:48                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 21:42                             ` Andreas Schwab
2004-09-30 22:16                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 22:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-01 16:43                                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-03 14:32                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-30  0:09               ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 14:21               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:32                 ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 15:31                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:34                 ` Miles Bader
2004-09-30 15:37                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:53                     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 16:06                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 17:20                         ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 17:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 17:42                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 20:42                           ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 21:35                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-01  7:22                               ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 12:35                                 ` Stefan
2004-10-01 14:49                                   ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 16:25                                     ` Stefan
2004-10-01 20:31                                       ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:33                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-03 16:20                                           ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:33                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-01 20:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 21:36                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 19:09                         ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-01 20:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-10-01 21:47                             ` [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacsreleases.] Lennart Borgman
2004-09-30 16:53                       ` [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Rob Browning
2004-09-30 19:15                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-09-30 20:26                       ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-03 14:20                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-10-04 22:40                       ` Rob Browning
2004-10-06  5:28                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-06  9:12                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 14:55                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-30 15:41                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:15                 ` Rob Browning
2004-09-30 15:48                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 15:58                     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-09-30 17:31                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 18:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-09-30 18:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-09-30 21:39                         ` Andreas Schwab
2004-10-02 20:47                   ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-09-30 15:59               ` Richard Stallman
2004-10-01  6:24               ` Francesco Potorti`
2004-10-04 22:58                 ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05  8:34                   ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-05 15:01                     ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 16:18                       ` Juri Linkov
2004-10-05 16:34                         ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 17:03                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-06  8:39                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-10-05 11:26                   ` Stefan
2004-10-05 11:40                     ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-06 11:09                       ` Nick Roberts
2004-10-06 11:46                         ` Jérôme Marant
2004-10-05 14:39                     ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 14:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-10-05 15:28                         ` Rob Browning
2004-10-05 15:32                           ` Rob Browning
2004-10-06  8:07                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-09-27 12:17 ` Kenichi Handa

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