From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [jerome.marant@free.fr: Re: Possible help with stable Emacs releases.] Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:17:04 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200409271217.VAA20949@etlken.m17n.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096287518 2668 80.91.229.6 (27 Sep 2004 12:18:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 14:18:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CBuSQ-00023e-00 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 14:18:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CBuYe-00041D-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:24:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CBuYV-0003zD-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:24:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CBuYQ-0003wx-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:24:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CBuYQ-0003wQ-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:24:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1CBuRP-0002mN-0n; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.6) with ESMTP id i8RCH5qf019476; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:17:05 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i8RCH4U10210; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:17:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id VAA20949; Mon, 27 Sep 2004 21:17:04 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Mon, 27 Sep 2004 03:37:57 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27609 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27609 In article , Richard Stallman writes: > Marant is proposing to make a 21.4 release in the short term > based on 21.3. I'm inclined to accept his offer, but does anyone > argue against it? I'm strongly against it. If the main reason why we don't start 21.4 pretest from the trunk is that we have not yet checked manuals, the same can be said for 21.3. It seems that most of documentation problems reported exist in 21.3 (thus not specific to changes done after 21.3). It's perhaps because we didn't checked the manual as precisely as what Luc is now doing. In other words, if we decide to fix pre-21.3 documentation bugs later and concentrate on checking manuals only for after-21.3 changes, I think we can start 21.4 preteset much earlier. I've just checked NEWS entries after 21.3. There are 629 entries and 328 of them don't have "+++" nor "---" flags. Who put flags on them how and when? May I put flags on mule-related changes (of course by updating manuals if necessary)? --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org