From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ! in Dired--what was the outcome? Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:44:35 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200409220144.i8M1iZC10522@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095817544 8447 80.91.229.6 (22 Sep 2004 01:45:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 01:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 22 03:45:29 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9wCG-0005E2-00 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 03:45:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9wIA-0001OH-Vb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:51:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9wI4-0001OB-AF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9wI3-0001Nz-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:51:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9wI3-0001Nw-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9wBa-0001eL-UP; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 21:44:47 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i8M1ijiU025922; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:44:46 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7) id i8M1iZC10522; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 20:44:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Richard Stallman on Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:30:15 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27406 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27406 What did we finally end up doing about the ! command in Dired and its handling of ? and *? If I remember well we decided to solve this as follows, proposed by David Kastrup: Bind * to insert a text-propertied (and thus recognizable and copy&pastable) x character with the display property of "". If people really need * itself, they can insert it using C-q *. But then Juri pointed out that several other problems needed to be solved before this could be implemented. I believe you then decided that these other problems should be solved. I do not know whether any of this actually ever got implemented. There are alternative solutions that only require trivial changes to something like two lines of code. Sincerely, Luc.