From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: byte-code optimizations Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:57:03 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040921225703.GA29743@fencepost> References: <200409181152.15364.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <20040921211527.GA3394@fencepost> <200409220131.59482.pogonyshev@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095807472 21925 80.91.229.6 (21 Sep 2004 22:57:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 22 00:57:41 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C9tZt-0005eE-00 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:57:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9tfp-0005NR-H3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9tfU-0005Me-3D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:03:28 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C9tfS-0005Kt-2G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C9tfQ-0005Ki-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 19:03:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C9tZN-00040k-Nu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:57:09 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1C9tZH-0007nd-Cf; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:57:03 -0400 Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200409220131.59482.pogonyshev@gmx.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27402 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27402 On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 01:31:59AM -0200, Paul Pogonyshev wrote: > > I vote for saying "you're not allowed to treat defsubst argument bindings > > as normal dynamic bindings, and if you have tons of code that does, well > > screw you, you're probably a crappy programmer anyway." > > While I do agree with this, it's generally better to avoid changing > stabilized behaviour only for optimization reasons. Otherwise, > really-difficult-to-debug bugs can jump out of nowhere. There's also a point where you have to just say "enough is enough". -Miles -- [|nurgle|] ddt- demonic? so quake will have an evil kinda setting? one that will make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? [iddt] nurg, that's the goal