From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug tracking Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:31:55 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040613132610.BC11.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> References: <87wu2ca3tw.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> <20040613033452.GB27992@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087126342 25127 80.91.224.253 (13 Jun 2004 11:32:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 11:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 13:32:12 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZTDg-00005O-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:32:12 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZTDf-0000QS-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:32:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BZTEV-0003r2-Kn for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BZTET-0003qN-6k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BZTER-0003oP-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:33:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BZTER-0003oF-Eq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:32:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.81.186.18] (helo=smtp08.retemail.es) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BZTDT-00087B-1z; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 07:31:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([213.37.34.195]) by smtp08.retemail.es (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20040613113157.ZAGQ3295.smtp08.retemail.es@[127.0.0.1]>; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 13:31:57 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20040613033452.GB27992@fencepost> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.09.01 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24913 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24913 On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:34:52 -0400, Miles Bader wrote: > Indeed for the original bug submission, it helps to be able to search the > database, but it's not necessary to use the web to do that (even though you > might want to use an http/html-based interface of some sort for maximum > firewall transparency) -- see debian's bug system for an example of a system > that does most of the work on the client, but also uses a network > database-access protocol of some sort to allow the user to look for old bugs > (it doesn't a perfect interface; something emacs based would likely be much > better). I think we agree that, with Emacs, a better system could be done (if not in absolute terms, definitely better for Emacs-using developers tracking Emacs-using users :) Where we differ is, these Emacs-based systems do not exist. We don't have a project or a group of people set to create one, we don't have, as far as I can see, even one developer with the time or the inclination to create it. Other systems are less perfect, but the quality of already existing weights a lot. > Purely web-based systems are non-starter. Here, I agree with Karl: we don't have an issue tracker. How could having one, even if web-based, be a non-starter? Nobody's forced to use it. /L/e/k/t/u