From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug tracking (was: new *Help* argument highlighting) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:20:22 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040613020921.B093.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> References: <20040612040752.6887.LEKTU@mi.madritel.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1087086033 29923 80.91.224.253 (13 Jun 2004 00:20:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 00:20:33 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 13 02:20:28 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZIjc-00007K-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:20:28 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BZIjb-00081w-00 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:20:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BZIkQ-0003wD-45 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:21:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BZIkO-0003w6-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:21:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BZIkM-0003vn-O6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BZIkM-0003vd-M6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:21:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.81.186.19] (helo=smtp09.retemail.es) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BZIjV-00083h-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:20:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([213.37.34.195]) by smtp09.retemail.es (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with ESMTP id <20040613002020.XBMT29475.smtp09.retemail.es@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:20:20 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.09.01 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24898 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24898 On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 20:01:11 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > I won't assume it is really good for other projects. > I don't know whether they have thought about it carefully. > Techies are often attracted to using the highest tech available > whether it is better or not. That's hardly fair. The GCC people, for example, is having a discussion right now about someday replacing CVS with another version control software. They certainly haven't jumped to the "highest tech available", and in fact it seems like they'll decide to just delay the decision till more, and more mature, tools exist so they can be fairly compared. I can't honestly object to people saying "I don't want to use a web interface", or "it's hard for me to use it for such and such", or "I would prefer just an e-mail system", or "text files are the way to go". But I simply find incredible that, confronted with the fact that many projects put web-based issue trackers to good use and express satisfaction with them, the answer be doubting their word. I'm certainly curious about how many free or open source projects the approximate size of Emacs go along happily without some sort of issue tracker. > It is clear that using a special "issue tracker" would be extra work > for many people, and it would be hard for me to use. Oh, I doubt it would be extra work for people, unless they decide to invest the effort on it. This is voluntary work, after all. And it is equally clear that, to-day, no one has decided to invest even the "modest effort" in maintaining issues in a simple etc/ISSUES.PENDING text file... so we're both on the realm of theology, right now. /L/e/k/t/u