From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Bug tracking Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:40:15 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040611142852.5F91.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> References: <20040611122633.5F88.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086957636 30089 80.91.224.253 (11 Jun 2004 12:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 12:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 11 14:40:22 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BYlKY-0000Fk-00 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BYlKY-0005BG-00 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:40:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BYlLH-0004Fh-UB for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:41:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BYlLF-0004Fc-Ir for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BYlLE-0004FQ-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:41:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BYlLD-0004FN-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.22.181.117] (helo=idefix.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BYlKR-00013t-RH; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 08:40:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (JMBARRANQUERO [172.17.221.23]) by idefix.laley.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id LSNJ7J9Z; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:39:28 +0200 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.08.01 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24833 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24833 On 11 Jun 2004 13:39:25 +0200 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) wrote: > I really don't understand that we manage to get by without using a bug > tracking system. We seem to manage, but I'm sure there are many > issues which are never fully addressed and resolved. I have the same feeling: we *seem* to manage. > I use my personal mail archives and TODO list to keep an eye on issue > that I MIGHT want to look into; actually, I have several mails more > than a year old that I really don't know (without using time I don't > have to find out) if the issue is still unresolved. Same here. I had for almost a year and half a personal note to try to find out what caused the incompatibilities between GnuWin32 image libraries and MSVC optimized builds. > A major advantage of bug tracking is also to know WHO (if any) is > responsible for fixing a given bug. Yes. That also helps when preparing for a release, because people can take a look at outstanding bug reports and appoint themselves responsibles for issues in their area of expertise. Another thing that I find surprising is not having any kind of regression testing in place. User interface issues are hard to test automatically, but there are many things that *could* be tested (the elisp interpretor, lots of modules, perhaps even the garbage collector). > I have very positive experience with bugzilla from other projects, but > there may be other choices... If we were to use an bug/issue tracker, would it be being on Savannah a prerequisite? (Not that I have any other system to propose, just to keep choices open...) Juanma