From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
Cc: mariano@gnome.org, alexander.winston@comcast.net,
emacs-devel@gnu.org, danilo@gnome.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
miles@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible UTF-8 CJK Regressions in Terminal Emulators
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 16:24:13 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200406090724.QAA11057@etlken.m17n.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rzqd64agch6.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk> (message from Dave Love on Tue, 08 Jun 2004 18:56:37 +0100)
In article <rzqd64agch6.fsf@albion.dl.ac.uk>, Dave Love <d.love@dl.ac.uk> writes:
> Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:
> > I think I succeeded in loading subst-*.el not at the time of
> > customizing utf-translate-cjk-mode to t but only when it is
> > found that loading them is necessary on decoding or encoding
> > utf-8, or on running decode/encode-char. This means that we
> > can make the default value of utf-translate-cjk-mode to t
> > without loading subst-*.el at building time.
> It doesn't fix the potential effects on non-CJK users if decoding a
> bit of Unicode text containing such a character will load the large
> tables even if they're useless to the user. Maybe there aren't many
> people now with 48MB P133s or old SPARCs like me, in which case it's a
> reasonable default, but I suggest an entry in NEWS/PROBLEMS about it.
I'm going to modify the current entry in NEWS as below.
** The utf-8/16 coding systems have been enhanced.
By default, untranslatable utf-8 sequences are simply composed into
single quasi-characters. User option `utf-translate-cjk-mode' (it is
turned on by default) arranges to translate many utf-8 CJK character
sequences into real Emacs characters in a similar way to the Mule-UCS
system. As this loads a fairly big data on demand, people who are not
interested in CJK characters may want to customize it to nil. You can
augment/amend the CJK translation via hash tables
`ucs-mule-cjk-to-unicode' and `ucs-unicode-to-mule-cjk'. The utf-8
coding systems now also encodes characters from most of Emacs's
one-dimensional internal charsets, specifically the ISO-8859 ones.
The utf-16 coding system is affected similarly.
> > I think it's a big improvement especially for CJK users,
> I agree it should be on for CJK users anyway. (I thought it was now
> conditional on the language environment.)
It's not. I think we had better avoid turning on/off a user
option depending on language environment.
---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org
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2004-03-18 15:34 ` Possible UTF-8 CJK Regressions in Terminal Emulators Dave Love
2004-04-07 12:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08 11:27 ` Dave Love
2004-04-09 11:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-07 12:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-07 12:36 ` Miles Bader
2004-06-07 13:00 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-08 18:02 ` Dave Love
2004-06-09 7:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-09 9:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-06-10 0:20 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-08 17:56 ` Dave Love
2004-06-09 7:24 ` Kenichi Handa [this message]
2004-06-12 2:41 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-12 13:46 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 8:42 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-13 11:36 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-06-13 13:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-06-14 1:05 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-06-13 20:39 ` Luc Teirlinck
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