From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible UTF-8 CJK Regressions in Terminal Emulators Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:00:59 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200406071300.WAA06332@etlken.m17n.org> References: <1077643915.12919.2.camel@duende> <1077682436.28482.9.camel@duende> <200403010815.RAA14365@etlken.m17n.org> <200404071230.VAA25159@etlken.m17n.org> <200404091128.UAA02120@etlken.m17n.org> <200406071227.VAA06216@etlken.m17n.org> <20040607123615.GA29450@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086613332 914 80.91.224.253 (7 Jun 2004 13:02:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 13:02:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mariano@gnome.org, alexander.winston@comcast.net, d.love@dl.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, danilo@gnome.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 07 15:02:01 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BXJlJ-00034V-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:02:01 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BXJlJ-00042e-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:02:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BXJlo-0004XK-4b for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BXJli-0004XF-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BXJlg-0004X3-Hi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BXJlg-0004X0-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:02:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BXJkP-0003w0-Rb; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 09:01:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i57D10Q01838; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:01:00 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i57D0xW22545; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:00:59 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id WAA06332; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 22:00:59 +0900 (JST) Original-To: miles@gnu.org In-reply-to: <20040607123615.GA29450@fencepost> (message from Miles Bader on Mon, 7 Jun 2004 08:36:15 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24667 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24667 In article <20040607123615.GA29450@fencepost>, Miles Bader writes: > On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 09:27:36PM +0900, Kenichi Handa > wrote: >> I think it's a big improvement especially for CJK users, >> and is an improvement of an existing feature rather than >> a new feature. If people agree on making >> utf-translate-cjk-mode to t, I'll brush-up the current >> working code and install the changes. > Absolutely! Then we can say "utf-8 is (almost) completely > supported"... I think this is a very important thing. I think "completely" is still too strong even with preceding "(almost)". Perhaps "utf-8 support is fairly good" or "Unicode BMP support is fairly good". --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org