From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bruno Haible Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog fontifications Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 17:14:16 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200405161714.17062.bruno@clisp.org> References: <200405132050.00109.bruno@clisp.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084721072 12627 80.91.224.253 (16 May 2004 15:24:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 15:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun May 16 17:24:23 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPNV0-0005y8-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:24:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BPNV0-0005z4-00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:24:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BPNTp-0000sD-Hm for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:23:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BPNTc-0000qK-FA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:22:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BPNT5-0000Zu-JN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:22:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [81.80.162.195] (helo=ftp.ilog.fr) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BPNT0-0000YE-T4; Sun, 16 May 2004 11:22:23 -0400 Original-Received: from laposte.ilog.fr (cerbere-qe0 [81.80.162.193]) by ftp.ilog.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4GFMFhG006156; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:22:15 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: from honolulu.ilog.fr ([172.16.15.121]) by laposte.ilog.fr (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i4GFMA2V018115; Sun, 16 May 2004 17:22:10 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by honolulu.ilog.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BFE3B3F0; Sun, 16 May 2004 15:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Original-To: rms@gnu.org User-Agent: KMail/1.5 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23538 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23538 Richard Stallman wrote: > If some projects (including non-GNU projects) use the other style, > we may as well make Emacs more useful for them. Yes, all GNU projects I work on use the style with a 15-year tradition. > I will write to suggest that they follow the GNU standards > for this. > ... > I think that 1989 was before I thought about the issue After people have used to write things in a certain style for 10 years - following the example that was given by you, by GCC, glibc and other projects - it will be hard to explain what in this style is "wrong". Werner said that the new Emacs style is bad because it doesn't follow the parenthesizing conventions used in plain text. I add that the new Emacs style is bad because it doesn't allow a newline to be inserted anywhere, i.e. it doesn't treat newline and space conceptually the same. What are the advantages/benefits of the new Emacs style that should convince me and others to use it? Bruno