From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Glitches with the GTK toolkit Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 15:30:05 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040513193005.GC12256@fencepost> References: <1084300258.40a11be25a438@imp3-q.free.fr> <87isf27kxl.fsf@marant.org> <1084361643.40a20bab4f25d@imp3-q.free.fr> <87brkt9wwr.fsf@marant.org> <20040512223201.GB30731@fencepost> <1084449312.40a362208ae14@imp6-q.free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084476794 27516 80.91.224.253 (13 May 2004 19:33:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 19:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" , "Jan D." , Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu May 13 21:33:00 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOLwy-0001Hh-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 21:33:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BOLwy-0006bZ-00 for ; Thu, 13 May 2004 21:33:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOLve-0001CP-AP for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:31:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOLur-0000vS-DL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:30:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BOLuA-0000mM-BB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BOLuA-0000mI-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BOLu9-0003l2-S0; Thu, 13 May 2004 15:30:05 -0400 Original-To: J?r?me Marant Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1084449312.40a362208ae14@imp6-q.free.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23341 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23341 On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 01:55:12PM +0200, J?r?me Marant wrote: > > It's not, but the (non-GTK) toolbar is implemented using the emacs > > display engine which has aforementioned restriction in many places. > > IIRC, it's more like a funny sort of window than a frame (not exactly > > that either though -- e.g., I don't think it shows up in the window > > tree). > > I still think using the Emacs display engine for that purpose is > strange. Why not implementing a toolbar the XEmacs way? I don't know, you'll have to ask Gerd. I expect it was easier this way. [After all, you don't need just display capability, but also input handling, etc, and things like overflows have to interact gracefully with the rest of the display engine -- I don't know if GTK even handles the latter well.] -Miles -- Would you like fries with that?