From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Whaite Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: dired alignment Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 11:49:58 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200405121549.i4CFnwAu004985@brains.moreideas.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084379295 4257 80.91.224.253 (12 May 2004 16:28:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 16:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed May 12 18:28:07 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNwaU-0000H5-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 18:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNwaU-00027M-00 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 18:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNwEQ-0008K9-T1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 12:05:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNw9O-00075V-0m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 12:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNw1F-0004zw-DV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.185.220.222] (helo=priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNw03-0004rW-L3; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca ([142.169.183.172]) by priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.00.05.02 201-2115-109-103-20031105) with ESMTP id <20040512155014.DERJ27032.priv-edtnes14-hme0.telusplanet.net@brains.moreideas.ca>; Wed, 12 May 2004 09:50:14 -0600 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i4CFnwjT004990; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:49:58 -0400 Original-Received: from brains.moreideas.ca (peta@localhost) by brains.moreideas.ca (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id i4CFnwAu004985; Wed, 12 May 2004 11:49:58 -0400 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Message from Richard Stallman of "Sat, 08 May 2004 17:59:51 EDT." X-Mailer: MH-E 7.4.3+cvs; nmh 1.0.4; GNU Emacs 21.3.50.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23260 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23260 Richard Stallman wrote: > > Do you mean, using --dired should force the old-style alignment? > That might be a good partial solution. It was more a coreutils than an emacs comment. It looks like the `ls` alignment changes were intended to make life easier for interactive users on a terminal console. However those changes shouldn't have affected --dired output which is in effect a protocol to communicate with emacs dired mode. > However, we will still have problems with non-GNU versions of ls, > so we might want to make Dired fix the alignment when it doesn't > use --dired. That's another problem, though perhaps dired.el should always work with 'ls -l --dired' output, and that for non-GNU versions of ls, a layer of elisp filters be added to convert to produce the dired output. I hasten to add that I know very little about how dired actually works. -- Peter Whaite (http://whaite.ca)