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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: Lars Brinkhoff <lars@nocrew.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: User-reserved element in byte code vectors
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 16:39:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040506203905.GA10369@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvoep1od2o.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:24:18AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >    (curry '+ 1 2 3)
> >    => #[curry + 1 2 3]
...
> But of course it will break some elisp code that expects a byte-compiled-p
> object to have a particular shape (typically code that wants to get at the
> docstring, or the arglist, or the interactive spec).

I think such code will be (1) extremely rare, and (2) the sort of very
specialized thing that will not be done by externally-maintained user
packages.  So it should be no problem to look for and fix it ahead of time
(and once fixed, such code will kosher for future uses of byte-vectors in
this manner, with different first-element tags).

> I'm still not sure I understand what it would be used for.
> 
> Is that how you construct closures in your lexbind branch?

Yes (well, of course there I currently still use normal vectors, but I'll
obviously change to this new representation if it can go into the trunk).

> I thought you used extra arguments in byte-compiled-objects for that.

No; the extra arg in byte-compiled-objects is a flag telling eval to use
lexical binding for the arguments -- it's a static part of the
byte-code-object, and only applies to byte-code-objects, so it makes sense to
put it there.

[Remember closures are created dynamically, so all the extra futzing around
required to use an `extra argument in byte-compiled-objects' would be pretty
annoying.  See my earlier reply to Lars for a list of reasons...]

-Miles
-- 
.Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're guessing.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-06 20:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1BH4Nx-000730-Dq@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found] ` <85k7036eqr.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>
     [not found]   ` <E1BI6nw-0005F4-Hl@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <85smepfzqo.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>
     [not found]       ` <E1BIm46-0001Ha-5A@fencepost.gnu.org>
2004-04-28 10:43         ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors (was: Emacs Common Lisp) Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 13:48           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 15:08             ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 15:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 16:51                 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-04-28 17:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02  7:59                 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02  9:43                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-02 16:02                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 14:03                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 19:57                         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-05  5:23                           ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-05 20:21                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06  3:55                               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-06  4:56                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-06 11:48                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-14 17:53                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14 18:27                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 19:50                                         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-14 22:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2004-05-14 22:14                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-15 18:34                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-15 23:10                                         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 11:04                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 11:28                                             ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-17 16:30                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 22:06                                               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 22:33                                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-18  1:29                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 13:17                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-18 23:45                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19  6:28                                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-05-19  6:37                                                       ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19 19:00                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-19 22:32                                                       ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030520-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-19  7:34                                                   ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Kim F. Storm
2004-05-19 13:45                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-19 14:28                                                     ` Miles Bader
2004-05-19 15:19                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-20  0:31                                                         ` Miles Bader
2004-05-20 13:17                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-21  1:28                                                             ` Miles Bader
2004-05-22  7:31                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-22  9:37                                                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:53                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18 17:34                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:53                                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-16 23:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                       ` <E1BP3ym-0007oy-F7@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                                         ` <20040515231754.GB20052@fencepost>
2004-05-16  4:02                                           ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-16 12:28                                             ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-1-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-16 23:58                                             ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030516-0-c.patch Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17  0:03                                               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17  0:14                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17  0:30                                                   ` Miles Bader
2004-05-17 16:09                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 22:21                                                       ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 13:30                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-17 11:04                                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 11:04                                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-17 22:54                                               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-18 14:54                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-18  6:04                                               ` Function vectors: +funvec-20030518-0-c.patch Miles Bader
2004-05-06  6:17                                 ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-06 14:24                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-06 20:39                                   ` Miles Bader [this message]
2004-05-02 16:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 18:59                     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:21                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 19:27                         ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 20:28                             ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 21:07                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-03  6:08                                 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 19:52                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 15:38           ` User-reserved element in byte code vectors (was: Emacs Common Lisp) Miles Bader
2004-05-01  5:30             ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-01 23:58               ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01  7:01     ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-01 18:53       ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 14:44         ` get-internal-run-time Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-02 15:45           ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-02 18:41           ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03  0:10             ` get-internal-run-time Kevin Ryde
2004-05-03  5:38               ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 14:03             ` get-internal-run-time Richard Stallman
2004-10-28 16:30       ` get-internal-run-time Lars Brinkhoff

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