From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-mode's treatment of minor-modes is annoying Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 10:05:00 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040504140500.GC23709@fencepost> References: <87wu3s96ru.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <87pt9kz9vh.fsf@orebokech.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1083679722 5515 80.91.224.253 (4 May 2004 14:08:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 14:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 04 16:08:34 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL0b4-0007vM-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 16:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BL0b4-0000od-00 for ; Tue, 04 May 2004 16:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0av-0005S3-A7 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 10:08:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0Yr-0004bk-VF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 10:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0YK-0004NQ-9W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 10:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BL0Xd-00048D-Br for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 May 2004 10:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BL0Xc-0007Mh-QD; Tue, 04 May 2004 10:05:00 -0400 Original-To: Stefan Monnier Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22710 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22710 On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 09:52:03AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> I think all that should be moved to _after_ the major mode description, > >> with a single-line hyper link at the beginning of the buffer that jumps > >> there. > > I second that; the new behavior is annoying as hell. > > Well, I don't know about hell, but I agree in the sense that I find it > unhelpful. Maybe we should not only move the minor mode summary to after > the major mode, but also split the minor mode summary into buffer-local > minor modes vs global minor modes. Yeah I agree about that too; if the minor modes are on their own page after the major modes, I think it would suffice to just put the global modes after the local modes, with a blank line or two in between them, just enough to make the separation clear. -Miles -- Come now, if we were really planning to harm you, would we be waiting here, beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?