From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200404261335.i3QDZAI22929@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082987390 31162 80.91.224.253 (26 Apr 2004 13:49:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 13:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 26 15:49:29 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BI6UC-0003sn-00 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:49:28 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BI6UC-0001ct-00 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 15:49:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BI6Kz-0002Mp-5j for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BI6KQ-0002L4-8S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:39:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BI6Jt-0002B5-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BI6Jt-00028N-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:38:49 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i3QDcMTS012651; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:38:23 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id i3QDZAI22929; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:35:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: abraham@dina.kvl.dk In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Mon, 26 Apr 2004 10:23:36 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22170 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22170 Per Abrahamsen wrote: 2. Emacs *is* the first computer program the user learns. In that case, learning the next computer program will be harder, because the next computer program will use CUA bindings. I guess that must assume that the user is using MS windows or Mac OS specific applications. Emacs is _not_ the only application I use and I have never seen C-c used to copy (in nearly all applications I use C-c is used in the sense of "interrupt"), I have never seen C-x used to cut, C-z to undo (instead it systematically seems to mean "suspend") or C-v to paste (instead it seems to have, outside of Emacs, a meaning of "insert literally"). Nearly all applications I use, use key bindings that are inspired by Emacs, or let the user choose between Emacs or VI style bindings Sincerely, Luc.