From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: removing .elc files for `make bootstrap' Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:54:55 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200404192354.IAA01708@etlken.m17n.org> References: <87d664nc1y.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1082420333 483 80.91.224.253 (20 Apr 2004 00:18:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 00:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 20 02:18:45 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BFiyL-0003dp-00 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:18:45 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BFiyL-00056I-00 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 02:18:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BFirr-000231-MD for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BFipf-0001XB-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:09:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BFip4-0001L5-RE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:09:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BFibL-0006Bf-OV; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 19:55:00 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3JNst809806; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:54:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i3JNst914289; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:54:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id IAA01708; Tue, 20 Apr 2004 08:54:55 +0900 (JST) Original-To: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on 19 Apr 2004 10:25:07 -0400) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21918 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21918 In article , Stefan Monnier writes: >> Any objection to me changing `make bootstrap' to remove all .elc files >> at the beginning? > I need/want a bootstrap target that is "restartable". > So we should distinguish between `maintainer-clean' which prepares for > a clean boostrap and `bootstrap' which just builds the files assuming that > the dependencies are correct (or that the files were removed by > maintainer-clean if the dependencies were not). I think the basic problem of having old .elc is that `require' loads it even if there exists a newer .el. Can't we solve this problem by having a flag variable which, if non-nil, forces loading whichever the newer one. Then we can bind that variable to t on bootstrapping (or always on byte-compiling). --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org