From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:55:03 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040325123800.4ADA.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> References: <86brmldvbd.fsf@avet.kvota.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080218444 7010 80.91.224.253 (25 Mar 2004 12:40:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 25 13:40:33 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6U9w-0006fL-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:40:32 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6U9w-0003UF-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:40:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6U4e-0006nO-VY for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:35:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6U3m-0006mw-7P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:34:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6TwL-0005vN-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:27:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [62.22.181.117] (helo=idefix.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6TSF-0002gN-EI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:55:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (jsredondo.wk.org [172.17.221.23]) by idefix.laley.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2655.55) id HNSW5P2V; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:54:08 +0100 Original-To: Danilo Segan , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <86brmldvbd.fsf@avet.kvota.net> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.08.01 [en] X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20892 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20892 On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 12:23:34 +0100 Danilo Segan wrote: > That's only a reason to educate them better, not to adjust behaviour. Many people don't have the time to be "educated". I've introduced a few friends to Emacs and they're using it happily, but they just won't spend the time to learn features they feel they're not going to need. > I suggest you try "emacsclient -n +5 path/to/file" I don't use emacsclient, but I *do* use gnuclient.exe and gnuserv.el (I'm on Windows), which have the same functionality. Still, I routinely use M-x goto-line. > For those > that are not willing to go the "better" path (of course, if it becomes > a consensus that this is actually "better", I'm not insisting this > is), they can always customize their keybindings. Yes, that's what I've done, so I certainly won't insist on M-g being goto-line. Still, making goto-line more accesible that "set default font" seems sensible for all these "uneducated" people out there which don't want to spend too much time learning Emacs, i.e., the exact people to whom the customize stuff is addressed... > With the examples you mentioned, it seems that you haven't made use > of emacsclient so far; I recommend it, since it's been my $EDITOR for > a long time. ;) In fact, I routinely have Emacs running all the time and have an alias "em=gnuclient -qF" so I can edit files with "em filename.ext". gnuclient is also my editor-cmd in Subversion, so Emacs comes forward to edit Subversion commit logs, etc. etc. Really, I *do* know there are alternatives. I use some of them, and the ones I don't use, is because they're not that useful/comfortable to me. I refuse to be "educated" to do things in ways I've already discarded ;) Juanma