From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Compilation to native Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:57:23 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040324235723.GA26909@fencepost> References: <87eks0654s.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <87n06bp4ng.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> <8765cwkejr.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87ekrjr7k9.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87oeqln6sw.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080174393 11102 80.91.224.253 (25 Mar 2004 00:26:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 00:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juri Linkov , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 25 01:26:27 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6IhW-0007tH-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:26:26 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6IhW-0003a6-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 01:26:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6IQC-0003Ji-W2 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:08:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6INi-0002dU-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:05:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6IK1-0001Vp-OV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:02:41 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6IK1-0001Vb-8c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1B6IFP-00078Q-Aj; Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:57:23 -0500 Original-To: Matthew Mundell Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87oeqln6sw.fsf@sno.mundell.ukfsn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20861 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20861 On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 11:50:39PM +0000, Matthew Mundell wrote: > > Yes, this would require implementing an optimizing Lisp compiler > > which is a tremendous task. > > The byte compiler already does some optimisation. Surely the > combination of byte compiler and compilation to native heads towards > an optimising Lisp compiler? I don't think the current byte compiler would be a practical base from which to build a real optimizing compiler, it's a huge mess. [And of course, for an optimizing compiler, you _really_ want to use lexical binding, so help me with my emacs--lexbind branch!] -Miles -- I'm beginning to think that life is just one long Yoko Ono album; no rhyme or reason, just a lot of incoherent shrieks and then it's over. --Ian Wolff