From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Buffer Boundary Problem Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:13:17 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20040201001317.GD16423@fencepost> References: <401C36D3.4050609@ig.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075594689 7102 80.91.224.253 (1 Feb 2004 00:18:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 00:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 01:18:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1An5JL-0007MW-00 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:18:03 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1An5JL-0000Lm-00 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:18:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1An5H2-0005ST-Ct for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:15:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1An5GK-0005QO-UM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:56 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1An5Fo-0005Bc-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1An5Fn-0005BX-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:14:23 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1An5Ej-0004wM-92; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:13:17 -0500 Original-To: Vinicius Jose Latorre Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <401C36D3.4050609@ig.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19598 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19598 On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 09:14:27PM -0200, Vinicius Jose Latorre wrote: > But it has a problem, suppose you're visiting a file bigger than the window > in Emacs. So, the vertical scroll bar looks like: ... > Now, type several C-n (next-line) until the window scrolls up. > The vertical scroll bar now looks like: By `it' I presume you mean the scrollbars have a problem, and that you're using GTK scrollbars. If so, the problem is that the GTK scrollbars are missing some functionality that emacs needs to work optimally, so as a work-around emacs scrollbars are little funny near the end of a buffer. Basically there's some extra space at the end so you can use the scrollbar to scroll the last line to the top of the window. [While I understand the reason for this problem, I wonder if it might be useful to have a variable which controls that behavior -- by setting it to a different value, you could make scrollbars display `correctly' but lose the ability to scroll the last line to the window top... is this possible?] -Miles -- Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. -- Jerry Garcia