From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:45:49 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200312061645.hB6GjnB09507@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <878ylrbbk4.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312051426.hB5EQeZ11287@f7.net> <87ekvjuuj8.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200312051802.hB5I2EC04476@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200312052233.hB5MXsv07577@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87ptf2omam.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <7494-Sat06Dec2003114347+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070729689 8008 80.91.224.253 (6 Dec 2003 16:54:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2003 16:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 06 17:54:43 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASfhb-00038o-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:54:43 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASfha-0005gF-00 for ; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 17:54:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASgdS-0006UB-1z for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:54:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASgdL-0006TL-Mx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:54:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASgcp-0006G1-B5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:54:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASgcp-0006EK-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Dec 2003 12:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB6GqSKk013933; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:52:28 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id hB6GjnB09507; Sat, 6 Dec 2003 10:45:49 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: eliz@elta.co.il In-reply-to: <7494-Sat06Dec2003114347+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18464 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18464 Eli Zaretskii wrote: IIRC, the stand-alone Info reader was fixed to prefer the reference at point, if there is one, and otherwise try the reference that is closest to point. In my bug report to Juri I was not talking about references (@ref and the like), but about _menu entries_. Juri talked about "references". Juri, is this really what you meant? I actually made myself a mini .texi file to check whether there was a similar problem with references, but everything seemed to work OK. Menu entries with the same name would give trouble for the `m' (Info-menu) command. But we have no control over what winds up in the user's (dir)Top. It believe that it is a problem that needs to be fixed. > But we can remove such limitation by > adding a new argument `nodename' to the `Info-follow-reference'. Please don't. Let's not introduce yet another haphazard change into the Info format. As the case of the stand-alone reader shows, this limitation can be lifted without any changes to the Info format per se. Either I misunderstand you, or you misunderstood Juri or I misunderstood Juri. `Info-follow-reference' is a function in info.el. It has nothing to do with the Info format or formatting, it is a navigational function. Sincerely, Luc.