From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info enhancements Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:27:41 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200312051827.hB5IRfk17741@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070649590 15130 80.91.224.253 (5 Dec 2003 18:39:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 18:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 05 19:39:47 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASKrj-00072u-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:39:47 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ASKrj-0000Yq-00 for ; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 19:39:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASLe8-0000ob-JP for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:29:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASLe2-0000oK-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:29:42 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ASLdV-0000fi-GH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [209.61.216.22] (helo=f7.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ASLdT-0000eg-Jv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:29:07 -0500 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.11.7-20030920/8.11.7) id hB5IRfk17741; Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:27:41 -0500 Original-To: juri@jurta.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18430 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18430 Certainly we shouldn't overburden users with purely technical information. Well, in Emacs under X, the reader can erase the "(line NNN)" so users don't have to see it. As for the xref stuff, I am not at all sure the second arg to xref should be treated in a special way; that was not its original intent and nothing has ever been documented about it. I didn't know standalone info did any searching based on it. I'll have to think about that. I can see that making index entries automatically be xrefable points could be useful, in a few circumstances. But that is a separate feature from handling entries in the indexes themselves, so that the menu entries there go to the right place. Luc, my own personal opinion is that the conditional file-coding-system-alist xref should be deleted as you were going to do. If it's in the same section, users shouldn't need an xref (or else the section should be split, but the section in question seems a reasonable length to me).