From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:48:50 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200311271648.hARGmo404104@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87wua28zux.fsf@zip.com.au> <87ad6vdsxi.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> <200311192238.hAJMcTM06424@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBD2533.6090503@yahoo.com> <200311270014.hAR0E0i02821@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311271611.hARGBhP04028@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069952191 5429 80.91.224.253 (27 Nov 2003 16:56:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 27 17:56:28 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1APPRM-0001IS-00 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:28 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1APPRL-0001SA-00 for ; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 17:56:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1APQO9-0002J9-Kh for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:57:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1APQNx-0002HR-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1APQNP-0001vl-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:56:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1APQNO-0001v8-Ej for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:56:26 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hARGt4Kk016529; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:55:04 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id hARGmo404104; Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:48:50 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu In-reply-to: <200311271611.hARGBhP04028@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:11:43 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18170 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18170 >>From my previous message: ELISP> (get nil 'custom-group) ((ada-tight-gvd-integration custom-variable) (nnimap-authinfo-file custom-variable) (nnimap-prune-cache custom-variable) (nntp-authinfo-file custom-variable)) Actually, this only shows up after one does `M-x customize-group RET nil RET' or similar In the ielm run below, we have an emacs -q started from scratch. We evaluate (symbol-plist 'nil) and get nil. We do `M-x customize-browse' and evaluate again. Then we do `M-x customize-group RET nil RET' and evaluate a third time: ELISP> (symbol-plist 'nil) nil ELISP> (symbol-plist 'nil) (custom-loads (ada-xref nnimap nntp)) ELISP> (symbol-plist 'nil) (custom-loads (ada-xref nnimap nntp) custom-group ((ada-tight-gvd-integration custom-variable) (nnimap-authinfo-file custom-variable) (nnimap-prune-cache custom-variable) (nntp-authinfo-file custom-variable))) ELISP>