From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:54:29 -0600 (CST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200311251954.hAPJsTc00512@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <8765heixvu.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87ptfkdqss.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20031122214251.GA14680@fencepost> <874qwuqjzw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311241619.hAOGJ6W27027@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <87brr1konj.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069790759 1047 80.91.224.253 (25 Nov 2003 20:05:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 20:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 25 21:05:56 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOjRc-0002RN-00 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:05:56 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AOjRc-0005Q6-00 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:05:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOkNe-0001wK-6y for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:05:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOkN7-0001tA-Av for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:05:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AOkKX-0000OF-Qe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:03:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AOkJp-00008E-16 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:01:57 -0500 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hAPK0YKk011944; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 14:00:34 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id hAPJsTc00512; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 13:54:29 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: juri@jurta.org In-reply-to: <87brr1konj.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 25 Nov 2003 07:22:56 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18115 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18115 Yuri Linkov wrote: The same is true for web browsers too. They display only a link title without URL in the text area. But when you move the mouse pointer over a link, the browser displays the URL in the status bar. Emacs Info currently works in the same way: it puts the help-echo text property on a reference, so you can see the full address in the echo area after moving mouse over a reference. Info file names are usually very short, URL's tend to be long. True, I can get the full information, but it requires some extra effort. I may not take the trouble because I expect it to go to a section of the manual I am reading, because that is the "normal" situation. Hence, I do not worry about it because I have already read it and miss out on necessary information. The suggestions in my previous message might make things too long, but there are other possibilities. For instance, one could replace: *Note Locales: (libc)Locales, for more ... with: See Locales (libc) for more ... instead of with just: See Locales for more ... Anyway, if not, then the question is whether your proposed new implementation will work fine, filling and everything, with all possible values of Info-hide-note-references. In that case, everybody can customize. (I believe I understood that this thread is talking about a format that could potentially be used by Emacs, unlike the "A new online publishing ... " thread.) Sincerely, Luc.