From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: go to bottom of mail message Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:46 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200311210104.KAA18346@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200311191126.hAJBQY6C008722@beta.mvs.co.il> <200311191155.UAA15601@etlken.m17n.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069378108 14046 80.91.224.253 (21 Nov 2003 01:28:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 01:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 21 02:28:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AN05x-000775-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:28:25 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AN05x-0004af-00 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 02:28:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AN0sR-0004ZJ-VS for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:18:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AN0nr-0002as-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:13:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AN0nC-0002AW-IQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:13:37 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AN0gd-00089S-0A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:06:19 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id hAL14lh07027; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:47 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id hAL14ls12069; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id KAA18346; Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:04:46 +0900 (JST) Original-To: storm@cua.dk In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17996 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17996 In article , storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > Kenichi Handa writes: >> (3) I prefer the key "/" than ";" for >> rmail[-summary]-end-of-message because "/" is usually just >> right of "." but ";" is usually right upper of ".". As "." >> moves point to the beggining, it seems strange to type the >> upper key to move point to the end. By the way, for me the >> ideal keys are: >> "," go to the beginning >> "." go to the end >> because my fingers already got used to "ESC <" and "ESC >", >> and "," and "<", "." and ">" are on the same keys. > I don't use rmail anymore, but as a general note, you should > not make decisions like this based on a specific keyboard layout. Of course. That's why I used the word "I prefer", "usually", "for me ...". But, we must give some default, and it seems reasonable to decide it based on us-ascii keyboard in the case that mnemonics doesn't work. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org