From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc elisp intro cross reference fixes Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:35 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20031119235635.GA9969@fencepost> References: <200311190418.hAJ4ITC02466@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200311190528.hAJ5SrK02553@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3FBBD155.2050703@yahoo.com> <200311192348.hAJNm0106860@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069286905 25242 80.91.224.253 (20 Nov 2003 00:08:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 00:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ihs_4664@yahoo.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 20 01:08:22 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMcMw-0007kd-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:08:22 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMcMv-0003Sq-00 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 01:08:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMdIN-0001JR-FU for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:07:43 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMdHL-0001H7-Uf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:06:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMdGp-00010b-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:06:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMdGp-00010V-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:06:07 -0500 Original-Received: from miles by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AMcBX-0002gC-Uu; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:56:35 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200311192348.hAJNm0106860@raven.dms.auburn.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Blat: Foop X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17936 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17936 On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:48:00PM -0600, Luc Teirlinck wrote: > But there is an "inconsistency" regardless of the `*' or no `*' stuff. > There are plenty of variables with :set functions for which M-x > customize-variable is going to have an effect and M-x set-variable is > not. Having the desired effect or not having any effect whatsoever > can hardly be described as a "very faint distinction". This seems more like an argument for changing the way `set-variable' works (to essentially use customize's method of setting). I think having two sorts of `user variables' (`*' variables and `customize' variables) is confusing and unnecessary. -Miles -- Fast, small, soon; pick any 2.