From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: go to bottom of mail message Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:07 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200311191155.UAA15601@etlken.m17n.org> References: <200311191126.hAJBQY6C008722@beta.mvs.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1069243522 27193 80.91.224.253 (19 Nov 2003 12:05:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 19 13:05:19 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMR5D-0006KL-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:05:19 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AMR5D-0004kJ-00 for ; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:05:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMRuV-0003yL-G0 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:58:19 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMRtd-0003mE-S8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:57:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AMRt4-0003dW-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:57:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AMRt4-0003cu-0B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 07:56:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id hAJBt7h02503; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:07 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id hAJBt7s27992; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:07 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id UAA15601; Wed, 19 Nov 2003 20:55:07 +0900 (JST) Original-To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il In-reply-to: <200311191126.hAJBQY6C008722@beta.mvs.co.il> (ehud@unix.mvs.co.il) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.3 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17912 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17912 In article <200311191126.hAJBQY6C008722@beta.mvs.co.il>, "Ehud Karni" writes: > I recently noticed that I frequently need to go to the end of a mail > message, so I wrote `rmail-summary-end-of-message' and assigned it > to ";" in `rmail-summary-mode-map'. In the process I noticed that > `rmail-summary-beginning-of-message' uses (beginning-of-buffer) so I > changed it to (goto-char (point-min)). I like the idea of the new command rmail-summary-end-of-message too. Three points: (1) How about also making the new command rmail-end-of-message in RMAIL mode. (2) I've just noticed that rmail-summary-beginning-of-message works slightly differently than rmail-beginnig-of-message. The formar moves point to the really beginning of a message, but the latter moves point to the beginning of a BODY of a message. I think the latter is better because the former can be done by ESC <. So, shouldn't we change rmail-summary-beginning-of-message? (3) I prefer the key "/" than ";" for rmail[-summary]-end-of-message because "/" is usually just right of "." but ";" is usually right upper of ".". As "." moves point to the beggining, it seems strange to type the upper key to move point to the end. By the way, for me the ideal keys are: "," go to the beginning "." go to the end because my fingers already got used to "ESC <" and "ESC >", and "," and "<", "." and ">" are on the same keys. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org