From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephan Stahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:15:18 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20031029151518.C920@winpc174> References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067436706 5740 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 14:11:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 14:11:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Karl Eichwalder Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 15:11:42 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr30-0006U9-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEr30-0000QM-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:11:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqzZ-0006vz-P3 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:08:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqyg-0006r0-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:07:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqxv-0006le-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:59 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.139.105.20] (helo=ns2.isogmbh.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEqxu-0006kd-BD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:06:26 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 18428 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2003 14:06:21 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO winpc174) (192.168.81.12) by mail.dmz.isogmbh.de with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 14:06:21 -0000 Original-Received: by winpc174 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:15:18 +0100 Original-To: Stefan Monnier Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA on Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:01:50PM -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17545 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17545 Hi. On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 02:01:50PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Reminds me... I'd like to see C-z de-assigned from > > iconify-or-deiconify-frame. > > Agreed. It's very rarely useful, but often annoying. > Also it's completely non-standard, except that it tries to simulate the tty > behavior, which seems wrongheaded because iconify-frame rarely brings you > back to the "parent shell" or anything vaguely related. If C-z should continue to emulate the behavior of an tty when used in a windowing system then maybe it should call (shell)? That could at least be thought of as "parent shell".. -- Stephan Stahl