From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ehud Karni" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: RMAIL, MIME-related bug Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:14:34 +0200 Organization: Mivtach-Simon Insurance agencies Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200310161914.h9GJEYW0004195@beta.mvs.co.il> References: <200310121947.h9CJlhKH006102@oak.pohoyda.family> <6480-Thu16Oct2003192118+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> Reply-To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-8-i Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1066331954 7667 80.91.224.253 (16 Oct 2003 19:19:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 16 21:19:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AADeR-0000v3-00 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:19:11 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AADeR-0006oX-00 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:19:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AADas-0002M3-SN for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AADaZ-0002Ka-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AADa3-00028b-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:15:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.178.12] (helo=unix.mvs.co.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AADa2-00028L-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (beta [10.253.0.3]) by unix.mvs.co.il (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9GJEYqL001904 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h9GJEYhP004199 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:14:34 +0200 Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h9GJEYW0004195; Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:14:34 +0200 Original-To: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, eliz@elta.co.il, alexander.pohoyda@gmx.net In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on 16 Oct 2003 14:49:13 -0400) X-Mailer: Emacs 21.3.1 rmail (send-msg 1.108) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17172 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17172 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Oct 2003 14:49:13 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > The question is, do we care that we lose information, and do we need > > to recreate the original format? That's exactly what I was asking > > Alexander to explain. > > I need to be able to forward/resend a GPG-signed message (or a message with > a GPG-signed subpart), so at least in those cases we need to preserve all > the information. I second Stefan opinion. I just checked current RMAIL behavior. When you do rmail edit (i.e. rmail-edit-current-message) it fully restores the original mail including the original character encoding (I checked it on a problematic Hebrew encoded in utf-8). > PS: All the MUAs I know do the processing upon display, so I don't > understand why it would pose any performance problem. I agree on this point too (only few mails are read more than once). Ehud. - -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7966-667 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: use http://www.keyserver.net/ to get my key (and others) iD8DBQE/ju4ZLFvTvpjqOY0RAjgkAJ99A7/T4aSpAFQLeFzsmjoD7dbLaACfdSYc SUy/Z7U3LG+mHarpzQoG4TE= =/Ytc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----