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Lute Kamstra wrote:

   If it doesn't work, the docstring is confusing.

I responded too quickly this morning.  I now remember the issues
involved and I now agree that the documentation string of
`remove-hook' is misleading.  It clearly suggests that one can use
`remove-hook' to buffer-locally remove FUNCTION from the
default-value, whereas one can not.  (Or at least not in one step,
although one could play tricks and remove the added `t' later, but I
do not believe one is really "supposed" to do that.)

Sincerely,

Luc.