From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:56:49 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200310051756.h95Hunq22538@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309272155.h8RLttv09524@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281642.h8SGgxc11119@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281801.h8SI1gV11332@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309300011.h8U0B6021222@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3F7F1343.2020208@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065377032 16347 80.91.224.253 (5 Oct 2003 18:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 05 20:03:50 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6DEU-00062d-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:03:50 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6DEU-000307-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 20:03:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DCb-0007WT-DL for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:01:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DC8-0007VR-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DBc-0007DZ-KS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:01:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6DBc-0007Cy-50; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:00:52 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h95I0mAJ000470; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 13:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h95Hunq22538; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:56:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: jan.h.d@swipnet.se In-reply-to: <3F7F1343.2020208@swipnet.se> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16947 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16947 Jan D. wrote: This still will not change the fact that pixmap based themes may not use these colours. Do _only_ pixmap based themes create trouble with GTK customization? If so, what percentage (very roughly) of themes are pixmap based? If say, only the theme actually named "Pixmap", or similar themes whose name clearly indicates that they are pixmap based, would be affected, we could just tell users not to use these themes, if they want full customizability. If any theme whatsoever can yield one type of problem or another with the type of non-theme GTK customizability we want, then I agree with Jan. Would it make any sense whatsoever to try to talk with GTK people about our problems or is it obvious from prior experience that this is just a waste of time? Sincerely, Luc.