From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stepan Kasal Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs Subject: Re: Double hyphens in variable names. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:36:12 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20031005123612.A17768@math.cas.cz> References: <200310040103.h9413Xq08288@f7.net> <87znggzeqs.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065350512 9532 80.91.224.253 (5 Oct 2003 10:41:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 10:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-texinfo@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 05 12:41:50 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A66Kk-0007VE-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:41:50 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A66Kk-0001hj-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 12:41:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A66Hj-0005xu-Bq for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:38:43 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A66Gq-0005xj-M5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:37:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A66GX-0005wU-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:37:47 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.231.88.1] (helo=matsrv.math.cas.cz) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.24) id 1A66FL-0005pv-Pk; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 06:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from matsrv.math.cas.cz (IDENT:kasal@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h95AaCqi017817; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:36:12 +0200 Original-Received: (from kasal@localhost) by matsrv.math.cas.cz (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id h95AaCBN017815; Sun, 5 Oct 2003 12:36:12 +0200 Original-To: rms@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <87znggzeqs.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp>; from miles@gnu.org on Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:53:47AM +0900 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16943 gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs:1225 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16943 Hello, > Richard Stallman writes: > > One other alternative is to use a fixed width font but slightly > > smaller than the roman font now used. That might use little or no > > extra space. It would have a drawback too, in reducing the visibility > > of the function name, but it still could be better overall than using > > a fixed width font of the same size. The current implementation uses bxshape, which is pretty wide. Replacing cmbx10 by cmtt10 means getting _narrower_ results in average, I guess. Observe the following excerpt from a .log file: \bxshape: > 48.07613pt. l.1 \setbox0\hbox{\bf megabyte} \showthe\wd0 > 39.3956pt. l.2 \setbox0\hbox{\bf variable} \showthe\wd0 \ttshape: > 41.99963pt. l.3 \setbox0\hbox{\tt megabyte} \showthe\wd0 > 41.99963pt. l.4 \setbox0\hbox{\tt variable} \showthe\wd0 Two more notes: On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:53:47AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Mixing smaller font sizes in this way usually looks quite bad too. Sure. current texinfo.tex contains: | \setfont\defbf\bxshape{10}{\magstep1} %was 1314 | [...] | \def\setdeffont#1 {\csname DEF#1\endcsname} I don't know whether we prefer \defbf or \DEFbf (Karl?). Have a nice day, Stepan Kasal