From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: broken greek support? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:14:34 +0900 (JST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200310022314.IAA05352@etlken.m17n.org> References: <20030928.063915.240498167.wl@gnu.org> <200309290027.JAA28856@etlken.m17n.org> <20030929.131753.41181942.wl@gnu.org> <200309291234.VAA29816@etlken.m17n.org> <200310020125.KAA03835@etlken.m17n.org> <200310021059.TAA04511@etlken.m17n.org> <3F7C702A.2040008@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065137141 16519 80.91.224.253 (2 Oct 2003 23:25:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 23:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 03 01:25:39 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5CpH-0000yY-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:25:39 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5CpH-000857-00 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2003 01:25:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5CgN-0004zs-1Z for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:16:27 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5CfS-0004zC-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:15:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Cem-0004u6-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:15:19 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5Ceg-0004tH-29 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Oct 2003 19:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from fs.m17n.org (fs.m17n.org [192.47.44.2]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.11.6p2/3.7W-20010518204228) with ESMTP id h92NEZ320694; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:14:35 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from handa@m17n.org) Original-Received: from etlken.m17n.org (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by fs.m17n.org (8.11.6/3.7W-20010823150639) with ESMTP id h92NEY905706; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:14:34 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from handa@localhost) by etlken.m17n.org (8.8.8+Sun/3.7W-2001040620) id IAA05352; Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:14:34 +0900 (JST) Original-To: ihs_4664@yahoo.com In-reply-to: <3F7C702A.2040008@yahoo.com> (message from Kevin Rodgers on Thu, 02 Oct 2003 12:36:26 -0600) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/21.2.92 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16891 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16891 In article <3F7C702A.2040008@yahoo.com>, Kevin Rodgers writes: > Kenichi Handa wrote: >> Oops, that many! We shuldn't make face-ignored-fonts that >> big. Now I think it's better to suggest not to use that >> package in etc/PROBLEMS or etc/FAQ. > But each element of face-ignored-fonts is a regexp, so it could be kept > relatively small. There are only 15 foundry-family combinations in > Andreas' list. Yes, but, if we make a list of regular expressions that matches ONLY with those fonts, I think the list is still too long. And, if we make a more condensed list something like below (though I think it's still too long): "-adove-\\(coureer\\|helvetica\\)gr" "-elot-fixed-.*-iso8859-7" "-etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-130-75-75-c-70-iso8859-7" "-etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-120-100-100-c-80-iso8859-7" "-etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--24-170-100-100-c-120-iso8859-7" "-graphis-grarial" "-greek" "-grinet" "-hrnet&hcr-grt" "-misc-\\(gr\\)?fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-[68]0-iso8859-7" They may match with wrong fonts (i.e. fonts that should not be ignored). One more thing I noticed is that at least -etl-fixed-medium-r-normal--24-170-100-100-c-120-iso8859-7 has correct glyphs for Greek alphabets. If people use that font only for Greek alphabets, it seems that they get correct displaying. --- Ken'ichi HANDA handa@m17n.org