From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: The color of a header line and window selection. Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:13:54 +0200 (CEST) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200309291700.h8TGxr5I004544@stubby.bodenonline.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064853348 25849 80.91.224.253 (29 Sep 2003 16:35:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lute Kamstra , emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 29 18:35:45 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A40zx-0007y6-00 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:35:45 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A40zx-0002SG-00 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:35:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A40pC-0001mo-IN for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:24:38 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A40oW-0001fo-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A40ny-0001Uu-E2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 1A40ny-0001Pj-1a; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:23:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [193.201.16.94] (helo=stubby.bodenonline.com) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A40j2-0005LM-T3; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:18:17 -0400 Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h8TGxr5I004544; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:00:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: "from Stefan Monnier at Sep 29, 2003 10:36:58 am" Original-To: Stefan Monnier X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16771 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16771 > > Yes. When Emacs is compiled with GTK, the menu bar and the tool bar > > have the light color of the header line and the mode line of a > > non-selected window. When Emacs is compiled with LessTif, the menu > > bar and the tool bar have the dark color of the mode line of a > > selected window. I didn't check the Athena toolkit, but if memory > > serves me, it behaves like LessTif in this respect. > > I think the similarity of those colors is accidental more than > anything else. > This is true. The default for Motif is a dark gray and fot GTK a very light gray. It is just by chance that the default for the modeline of a selected window is close to the default for Motif/Lesstif. > > I think it's better to make the colors of the menu bar and tool bar > > the same for all toolkits. > > If set explicitly, that should already be the case. > As for the default, I'd say the default color for the Gtk menu should > be the same as for other Gtk applications rather than the same as > the Motif menu (and same thing applies to other combinations of > Gtk/Motif/Lucid). For GTK this is a must if themes shall work. Jan D.