From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:03:03 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200309282203.h8SM33b12114@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281737.h8SHbXJ11309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064787651 18363 80.91.224.253 (28 Sep 2003 22:20:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 22:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 29 00:20:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3juL-0002Tp-00 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:20:49 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3juK-00087Q-00 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2003 00:20:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jn7-0003AP-PY for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:13:21 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jmJ-0002yS-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jmH-0002xD-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:12:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.8] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jmG-0002wm-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3jh4-0004zw-Cx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SM6jAJ005704; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:06:45 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h8SM33b12114; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:03:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16739 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16739 Robert Chassell wrote: Your question concerned GTK. Jan answered it. No, he did not. OK, I should have said: "Jan is taking care of it". As a tester, please run a non-default Emacs for a while. It is useful for everyone. I run a non-default Emacs all the time, except if I specifically want to test the default behavior. I normally use the native scrollbar: ./configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars This does not yield the default scroll bar you get with a simple ./configure, the Xaw3d scroll bar. Apparently, it [I think you are referring to the native scroll bar, not the GTK scroll bar] completely ignores the :foreground attribute, only :background matters. In as far as your parenthetical remark (inside my original quote is concerned), I was _not_ referring to the native scroll bar, that one works completely OK, I was referring to the Xaw3d scroll bar, the one you get if you simply run ./configure without worrying about scroll bar choices. I would guess that that is exactly what the vast majority of Emacs users do. I don't know about this; if so, it is another bug to be fixed, I do not know Xaw3d well enough to decide whether this is a bug in the Emacs handling of Xaw3d or just a shortcoming (or lack of customizability) of Xaw3d. Sincerely, Luc.