From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200309281737.h8SHbXJ11309@raven.dms.auburn.edu> References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1064771127 8756 80.91.224.253 (28 Sep 2003 17:45:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 17:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 28 19:45:25 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3fbp-0000cj-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:45:25 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A3fbp-0007TV-00 for ; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:45:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3fYn-0004KC-HB for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:42:17 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3fXw-00046W-7W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.22) id 1A3fXu-00045Q-0U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:41:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [131.204.53.104] (helo=manatee.dms.auburn.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.22) id 1A3fXt-00044p-0j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 13:41:21 -0400 Original-Received: from raven.dms.auburn.edu (raven.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.29]) by manatee.dms.auburn.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id h8SHfFAJ005315; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:41:15 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by raven.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h8SHbXJ11309; Sun, 28 Sep 2003 12:37:33 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16728 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16728 Robert Chassell wrote: I would like to change the colors both of the foreground (the `thumb') and the background (the `trough') of the scroll bars. Your question concerned GTK. Jan answered it. We know that we can do it easily for the native scroll bar. But most people will wind up using the default scroll bar, not necessarily because they prefer that one, but because it is the default. That default is now the Xaw3d scroll bar. What about that one? Apparently, it completely ignores the :foreground attribute, only :background matters. It applies to both thumb and trough. I do not know whether this should be considered a bug, after all it is a "3d" scroll bar. However, some people may have trouble seeing the thumb if it has the same color as the trough. (I myself do not have that much trouble distinguishing the thumb, for the default "grey75" color. I find the native scroll bar somewhat more comfortable to the eye in this respect, however.) I do not know what happens with LessTif/Motif. Sincerely, Luc.