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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:19:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030812231907.GB10205@fencepost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030812131123.75904.qmail@web21305.mail.yahoo.com>

On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 06:11:23AM -0700, shuki_duv@yahoo.com wrote:
> Of what use is it to users (as opposed to the developers)?

Even if one were to accept that the distinction were relevant, how, pray
tell, does emacs know which you are?  The very fact that you're compiling .el
file multiple times suggests that you, in fact, are actually more like a
`developer.'

In any case, I think the point is that emacs simply doesn't know what you
want, and can't, unless you tell it.  Perhaps something like a
`byte-compile-overwrite-output-file' could be added to do what you want.

> On the other hand, for example, I am maintaining an emacs configuration
> which is in widespread use (via -u). My umask is 077, and whenever I
> recompile a file, I need to change its .elc counterpart permissions back.

Writing a new file (as opposed to overwriting the old one) is very common
in unix tools (especially in emacs).  If you have set up your environment so
that this doesn't do what you want, you have to deal with the result yourself
(it's not like it's hard).

> Also, what if target-file is a symlink? In my opinion, this feature only
> confuses matters.

Relying on writing files through a symlink is similarly something you can't
rely on; you simply shouldn't do that in general.

-Miles
-- 
We live, as we dream -- alone....

  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-12 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20030810000549.94627.qmail@web21310.mail.yahoo.com>
2003-08-11 12:53 ` (no subject) Richard Stallman
2003-08-12 13:11   ` shuki_duv
2003-08-12 23:19     ` Miles Bader [this message]
     [not found]     ` <shuki_duv@yahoo.com>
2003-08-14 12:35       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2020-05-22 10:45 (No subject) slb zetrov
2020-05-22 19:25 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-23 10:54   ` Michael Albinus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-28  7:34 [no subject] Chris Gregory
2010-10-16  4:59 (no subject) Richard Stallman
2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
2010-10-16  6:10   ` Werner LEMBERG
2010-10-18  6:26   ` Richard Stallman
2010-10-19 18:28 ` Glenn Morris
2010-09-30  8:02 Jambunathan K
2010-01-15 16:27 Drew Adams
2008-03-24  1:00 Xavier Maillard
2008-02-25  8:17 Herbert Euler
2007-04-18 20:21 A Soare
2007-04-19 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-03-21 11:04 A Soare
2007-02-21 22:31 A Soare
2006-12-21  6:55 Werner LEMBERG
2006-12-21 18:43 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-12-28 14:17   ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
2006-09-02 18:08 Richard Stallman
2006-07-25 17:33 amcorreia
2006-06-26 12:54 amcorreia
2006-06-27 16:14 ` Richard Stallman
2006-06-02  3:14 Richard Stallman
2006-06-13 20:32 ` Chong Yidong
2006-03-07 23:39 Amir Bukhari
2005-10-28 12:20 Ahmadshah
2005-10-28  1:38 SHestbrooke
2005-10-22 11:30 Afrael
2005-10-02  2:11 Kajane
2005-09-25  9:42 Taneev
2005-09-15  9:32 Baron
2005-09-12  0:34 Stalina
2005-09-08 20:19 Alafir
2005-09-02 12:20 Alimgereiy
2005-08-31 10:14 David PONCE
2005-07-04  4:13 r.reichlin
2005-06-04  0:56 Luc Teirlinck
2005-05-31 19:49 uiuew_qqy
2005-05-21  5:00 Charity Donahue
2005-05-17  2:17 Kenichi Handa
2005-05-06 22:49 loot
2005-05-03 10:44 John Knottenbelt
     [not found] <01c54b24$Blat.v2.4$0ddb2a20@zahav.net.il>
2005-04-28 11:00 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-28 18:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-29 10:14     ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-18  9:34 Felix Cohen
2005-04-17 22:15 jhigr
2005-04-11 20:55 weather
2005-03-02  2:26 Chong Yidong
2005-03-02  3:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-01-16 16:55 Georgia Jaramillo
2005-01-16  1:10 vr
2005-01-08  0:06 tvpeq
2004-12-26  5:23 Hazel Whitaker
2004-12-21 10:40 Anna Nguyen
2004-12-08  6:49 Han Boetes
2004-12-08 13:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-12-08 13:31   ` Han Boetes
2004-12-03 13:33 Frank J. Hall
2004-12-02 17:43 perfect butts
2004-10-22 22:14 Luc Teirlinck
2004-10-22  1:45  Guerra
2004-10-20  5:35  Mcdermott
2004-10-14 19:23 Isaiah Ham
2004-10-14 19:23 Levi Miller
2004-10-14 19:23 Lilly Pryor
2004-10-14 19:23 Loretta Roe
2004-10-11 18:09  Eddy
2004-10-10  0:10 Drew Adams
2004-10-09 13:36 Tommie Bullock
2004-10-09 13:36 Dana Fisher
2004-10-09 13:36 Carmen Hill
2004-10-09 13:36 Antoine Heard
2004-10-09 13:36 Becky Sorensen
2004-10-08 15:19 May Dixon
2004-10-08  8:04 Geoffrey Spears
2004-10-03 22:36 Rogelio Lott
2004-10-01 21:32 Duane Dahl
2004-09-27  0:32 Luc Teirlinck
2004-09-27 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-09-27 22:17   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-06 10:59 Zane Cross
2004-05-27 11:34 Stephan Stahl
2004-05-14  4:42 Katrina Bliss
2004-05-04  6:54 Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2004-05-03  7:44 Nicole Delarosa
2004-04-17 16:03 Delores Bacon
2004-02-24 17:24 Alyson
2004-02-02 21:09 admail.direct
2004-02-01  5:52 Walden Teri
2004-01-31  0:56 Lutz Julianne
2003-11-17  2:05 Luc Teirlinck
2003-11-17  6:12 ` Jan D.
2003-09-18 22:40 george mbulu
2002-11-06  6:33 21.2.90 pretest, 21.3, 21.4 Eli Zaretskii
2002-11-06 12:40 ` Kim F. Storm
2002-11-07  8:08   ` (no subject) Kenichi Handa
2002-11-08 12:06     ` Richard Stallman
2002-09-09 15:53 Text mode menu wishlist Sacha Chua
2002-09-09 17:27 ` Alex Schroeder
2002-09-10  1:45   ` Sacha Chua
2002-09-10  7:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-09-10  7:48       ` Miles Bader
2002-09-10  8:35         ` (no subject) Thien-Thi Nguyen
2002-08-30 13:23 Dhruva Krishnamurthy
2002-08-10 17:16 Richard Stallman
2002-08-10 17:51 ` Simon Josefsson
2002-08-11  3:56   ` Richard Stallman
2002-07-25  3:29 Free Concert Tickets!
2002-05-02 19:37 laurent mpeti kabila
2002-02-23 16:11 ctext-pre-write-conversion barfs Tak Ota
2002-02-23 18:51 ` (no subject) Eli Zaretskii
2002-02-23 23:11   ` Tak Ota

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