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From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Invisible colons in Emacs Info.
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 20:03:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200307010003.h6103d623188@f7.net> (raw)

    ... situation for menu subtopic names is the following:
    1.  They can contain colons, but not colons followed by a space.
    2.  There must be at least one space separating the subtopic name and
        the node name.

I think this is ok, because there are few manuals which lack a space
between a subtopic and node name.  As I said, the only ones I could find
were a few of the xemacs subsidiary manuals.  We should inform their
authors.

    Some, like Karl, would prefer not to allow colons at all until a new

Well, I think the rule above is ok.  The benefit, of allowing colons in
subtopic names, is worthwhile enough that I don't mind the additional
complexity, since the real fix is not on the horizon.

    Stefan and Karl pointed out that condition 2 used not to be necessary

And condition 1 did not obtain; colons were not allowed.

    If we want 1.  but not 2. then things become much more complicated and
    precise specs would need to be agreed upon.

1-but-not-2 requires the "real fix" or "better solution" or whatever you
want to call it, as far as I can tell.  (Quoting syntax.)

   Problem is that it still fails on:

      * name1:foo:node.           des:cription.

   because it thinks the menu entry name is "name1:foo:node.           des"
   and the node name is "cription".  I'm sure we can tune the disambiguation
   by saying that menu entries can have `:' but cannot have `.' after the `:'
   or some other such heuristic.  

Huh?  According to the rule above, the above is invalid because it lacks
a space, right?  It would have to be written as:

Name1:foo: node.  des:description.

I don't like the idea of trying to allow subtopic names to be followed
by :<nonspace> based on periods.  If that's what you were saying.
It's simpler both to understand and to implement to just require :<space>
as a separator.  Or :<tab>, I suppose.

Ok?

k

             reply	other threads:[~2003-07-01  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-01  0:03 Karl Berry [this message]
2003-07-01  0:31 ` Invisible colons in Emacs Info Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-04  0:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-05  3:14   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-05 18:28     ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-07-06 13:49       ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-06 13:03         ` Robert J. Chassell
2003-07-06 18:17         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 18:27         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 19:19           ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 23:38           ` Kim F. Storm
2003-07-05 13:15   ` Luc Teirlinck
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-06 23:56 Karl Berry
2003-07-07  0:47 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 22:43 Karl Berry
2003-07-06 22:58 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-06 23:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-06 23:42     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-07-07 14:47       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-07-08  2:17         ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 21:04 Karl Berry
2003-06-25 20:00 Karl Berry
2003-06-25 19:58 Karl Berry
2003-06-25 20:12 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25  2:34 Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25  2:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-25 18:49   ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 18:56     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-25 18:59       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 19:04       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 19:13       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 19:25       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 19:58       ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-25 21:12   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-06-25 21:26     ` Luc Teirlinck
2003-06-28  0:36     ` Luc Teirlinck

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