From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Invisible colons in Emacs Info. Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200306280036.h5S0aLm19442@eel.dms.auburn.edu> References: <200306250234.h5P2YNY15932@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <200306252112.h5PLCiko007276@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056762179 16678 80.91.224.249 (28 Jun 2003 01:02:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 28 03:02:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19W47B-0004Jr-00 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:02:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19W4CQ-0006fW-00 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 03:08:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19W46h-0007aR-Fa for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19W3yR-0005pN-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:53:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19W3sa-0004Pu-Gr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:47:51 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19W3hE-00026M-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:36:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h5S0a0oc012705; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:36:01 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h5S0aLm19442; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200306252112.h5PLCiko007276@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@cs.yale.edu) Original-cc: karl@freefriends.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15312 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15312 We probably need a decision on the following issue: It seems that the current de facto situation for menu subtopic names is the following: 1. They can contain colons, but not colons followed by a space. 2. There must be at least one space separating the subtopic name and the node name. If this is considered OK, then nothing needs to be done. Some, like Karl, would prefer not to allow colons at all until a new syntax for quoting node names is introduced in Texinfo. That would also be easy, one would just have to revert earlier changes. Stefan and Karl pointed out that condition 2 used not to be necessary. There seems to be some doubt as to whether its introduction was deliberate or accidental. If we want 1. but not 2. then things become much more complicated and precise specs would need to be agreed upon. Quoting Stefan, who proposed an (if I understand correctly) admittedly non-ideal patch: Problem is that it still fails on: * name1:foo:node. des:cription. because it thinks the menu entry name is "name1:foo:node. des" and the node name is "cription". I'm sure we can tune the disambiguation by saying that menu entries can have `:' but cannot have `.' after the `:' or some other such heuristic. If anybody wants to spice up the Info-menu-entry-name-re regexp accordingly... We really need a better solution. Sincerely, Luc.