From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Luc Teirlinck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Invisible colons in Emacs Info. Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:34:23 -0500 (CDT) Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <200306250234.h5P2YNY15932@eel.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056508880 25986 80.91.224.249 (25 Jun 2003 02:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 02:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 25 04:41:16 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19V0AJ-0006ah-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 04:37:43 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19V0E8-0007PD-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 04:41:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19V07j-0000vm-Ca for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19V076-0000My-Bx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:34:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19V06s-00086k-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:34:11 -0400 Original-Received: from manatee.dms.auburn.edu ([131.204.53.104]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19V06q-00080P-Ki for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 22:34:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eel.dms.auburn.edu (eel.dms.auburn.edu [131.204.53.108]) h5P2Y3oc002580; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:34:03 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (from teirllm@localhost) by eel.dms.auburn.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id h5P2YNY15932; Tue, 24 Jun 2003 21:34:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: eel.dms.auburn.edu: teirllm set sender to teirllm@dms.auburn.edu using -f Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15219 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15219 I believe that the colons after menu subtopic names should be made visible again. The reasons are: 1. Subtopic names "ending in a colon". To be concrete, say "$Id:", well known from RCS. One can not really use the name "$Id:", because the extra colon that is automatically added will make it "$Id::" and obvious trouble ensues. So what one would like to do is name it "$Id" and rely on the extra colon to make things "look right". Unfortunately, the extra colon is hidden by default and things do not look right. The trick works in indices, because there the extra colon is not hidden. 2. Consistency with indices. The colon is shown in indices, but not in other menus. Why the difference? 3. Avoid confusion when people try commands such as M-x man and the like on menu subtopic names. Does that colon really look that hideous? Sincerely, Luc.