From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:40:27 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030611163302.51F0.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> References: <20030611085212.51D3.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <200306111411.h5BEBepj004629@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055342919 18460 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 14:48:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:48:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 16:48:32 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q6mE-00042x-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:40:38 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q77F-0002UJ-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 17:02:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q6nz-0003KN-Vy for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q6nc-0003G4-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:42:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q6lG-0002y3-3G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from laley-actualidad.es ([195.53.61.17] helo=haya.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q6l7-0002wU-GI; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:39:29 -0400 Original-Received: from idefix.laley.net (correo.wke.es [172.17.220.16]) by haya.laley.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09261; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:37:07 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (jsredondo.wk.org [172.17.221.23]) by Version 5.5.2655.55) id LP7A4PX8; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 16:39:21 +0200 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200306111411.h5BEBepj004629@rum.cs.yale.edu> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.06.02 Original-cc: Jonathan Walther Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15038 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15038 On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:11:40 -0400 "Stefan Monnier" wrote: > I don't think so. I think they're only non-obvious to people for whom > *any* repository structure would be non-obvious. After all, they're > just plain text and have very few interdependencies. I think they're "obvious" in the sense that cutting and pasting your code from then (in the case of catastrophic failure) is posible. Non-obvious in the sense that, after that crash, is not easy to modify the CVS files to get a working repository again. At least, not to people who's not spent a time delving into the documentation and/or the CVSROOT files themselves. > Arch does not impose any decentralization whatsoever. All it does is > that it allows decentralization if you want it, and since it's something > that other systems can't do (and it's really neat when you need it), > of course they talk a lot about it. I was thinking more of BitKeeper (after reading long arguments from Linus et al). My understanding is that BitKeeper imposes it, in the sense that with BK there's no central repository and checked out source trees, but more like multiple repositories which are synchronized every now and then. But I can be wrong, I've not read BK documentation. > But it's like CVS going on and > on about remote repositories: that doesn't mean "I'll use RCS because > I want my repository to be local". Sure. I didn't want to imply that. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Juanma