From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Walther Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:54:24 -0700 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030611095424.GC16116@reactor-core.org> References: <20030610090750.9112.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <20030611091044.51D9.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============86142415504094427==" X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055324780 24235 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 09:46:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 11:46:18 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q2Au-0006HK-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:45:48 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Q2Vp-00085v-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:07:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q2CB-0005Ez-Hh for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q2Bj-0004uT-6e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:46:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Q2Bc-0004b0-IJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:46:33 -0400 Original-Received: from 00-00-b4-8d-5f-ef.bconnected.net ([209.53.16.55] helo=00-50-04-4b-bf-28.bconnected.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Q2BZ-0004JR-Sp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 05:46:30 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 16217 invoked by uid 1038); 11 Jun 2003 09:54:24 -0000 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20030611091044.51D9.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15026 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15026 --===============86142415504094427== Content-Disposition: inline content-type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-md5"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU" --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:19:55AM +0200, Juanma Barranquero wrote: >Still, a couple decades seems way too optimistic. I've seen this thing >grow from 1982 to this day, more or less, and there's been not that much >development. And every time a new fragment is proposed, controversy >arises about the "true master plan" of Gaudi (from which no real plans >remain for the rest of the cathedral) and words like "traitor" and >"horror" and "modern" (derisive :) are heard. This is how a real cathedral is built to last the ages; the product of many different groups collaborating, arguing, and cooperating with each other. It truly embodies the spirit of the community that built it. No matter what ones religion or lack thereof, a great cathedral in ones town is something to be proud of. Oh, and it's not abnormal for a cathedral to take 200 years to finish. Being built by community members is also part of the tradition. 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