From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juanma Barranquero Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Fwd: [arch-users] Re: Gud lord!] Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:59:13 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <20030611085212.51D3.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> References: <20030610165211.911A.JMBARRANQUERO@laley.wke.es> <200306101503.h5AF3EH9032505@rum.cs.yale.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055314632 12386 80.91.224.249 (11 Jun 2003 06:57:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 11 08:57:10 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19PzXi-0003Da-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:57:10 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Pzsa-0006P9-00 for ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:18:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19PzYz-0002S0-BU for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PzYg-0002RY-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19PzYf-0002RE-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from laley-actualidad.es ([195.53.61.17] helo=haya.laley.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19PzYf-0002R2-1a; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 02:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: from idefix.laley.net (correo.wke.es [172.17.220.16]) by haya.laley.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26913; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:55:53 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.17.221.23] (jsredondo.wk.org [172.17.221.23]) by Version 5.5.2655.55) id LP7A4NPJ; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 08:59:49 +0200 Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" In-Reply-To: <200306101503.h5AF3EH9032505@rum.cs.yale.edu> X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.06.02 Original-cc: Jonathan Walther Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15020 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15020 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:03:14 -0400 "Stefan Monnier" wrote: > when something goes wrong, you don't need to learn > much about the in-repository format because it's basically obvious, > so you can fix things fairly easily with the usual tools. > I.e. you get to reuse the knowledge you've acquired while using > all those other unix tools. I've got the feeling that CVSROOT/* and friends are "basically obvious" only to people with some sort of Unix background. But as you know, CVS can be (and is) used from other, "friendlier" environments by people to whom all these files would be black magic. > I also think it tends to be over-emphasized > in all those tools where they use new terms and warn you "this > is a whole new concept" whereas in the end it's just very much > all the same: edit, update, merge, diff, commit. Yeah, I agree with that. Still, some of them insist in things like decentralization, etc. I've got nothing against a centralized repository, on the contrary :) > Sure things like tags and branches might work differently, but > note that Subversion is radically different from CVS in this respect > as well ;-) Fair enough :) Juanma